Friday, October 10, 2025

Writing is a Team Sport By Cindy Williams Schrauben

In my mind, writing is a team sport. You might say, "No, authors are introverts. We work alone." While it’s true that writing can be a lonely profession, it doesn’t have to be. The kidlit community, and SCBWI in particular, is made up of giving individuals. Let them guide you, comfort you, teach you, and cheer you on. The options are endless.

Even athletes who participate in individual sports depend on support systems. Take Michael Phelps, for instance. He swam alone and his goal, in the end, was to stand atop the podium. As writers, our gold medal is that published book (ok, it’s a best-seller or Caldecott, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves). Do you think Phelps would have won 28 Olympic medals without reinforcements? No way. The necessary resources are available to us, as well. Seeking them out is the key.


How about Simone Biles? She has coaches who teach her techniques, help her to overcome fears, and push her day after day. We have coaches too, in the form of more experienced authors and other educators who teach classes, speak at conferences, and share tips online. If you are reading this, you are already benefitting from said coaches under the umbrella of SCBWI. Do athletes say… "I’m the one competing, I don’t need anyone else?" Of course not, and neither should we.


Instead of quitting when things get tough, athletes look up to mentors, soaking in the inspiration, acknowledging their weaknesses, and identifying their strengths. Do you have writing mentors? If not, seek them out. SCBWI is a global community with unlimited resources, both virtual and in-person. One such event that I will be taking advantage of next week is The Graphic Novel and Picture Book webinar with Jonathan Roth (see it and other options HERE). I met one of my mentors, Marcie Colleen at my first SCBWI event.

More often than not, Michael swam in solo races and Simone was alone on the mat. Still, they turned to teammates to lift him up. Who are your writing teammates? Do you have critique partners? If not, SCBWI-Mi offers a critique group connection service HERE to get you started. There are hundreds of online writing groups - find them. You can even lurk and learn without putting yourself out there. When you are more comfortable, participate in social media chats or go to an in-person SCBWI-Mi Shoptalk (see more HERE). 


When I embarked on this journey I didn’t have a clue how difficult it would be. Or how rewarding. Before my first book, This Could Be You was even an idea, I jumped right in and attended the SCBWI Annual Conference in New York City. To feel less alone, I started a newbie group. We met up and faced the overwhelming event together. 

While daring steps like this might not be for everyone, I still count those people as teammates, coaches and advocates twelve years later. I found my people and leaned on them! Learned from them! Commiserated with them! Knowing that you are not alone in an endeavor like this is priceless. SCBWI has taught me how to write, query, and submit to publishers. They have helped me learn how to do school visits and market myself. They have even provided opportunities like book festivals and their online showcase of school presenters HERE

I’ve lost count of the number of events I have attended, blogs I have read, and sessions I’ve watched, but I can tell you with all confidence that my books would not exist without the guidance of SCBWI.





Cindy Williams Schrauben is excited to give back to the writing community that has been so instrumental in her own publishing journey. Cindy lives in central Michigan where she writes empowering books for kids that range from the truly serious to the seriously silly. When not writing or honing her craft, this award-winning author might be found dissecting her grandsons’ shenanigans for story ideas, reading on the floor in the bookstore, or eating ice cream… ideally all at once. Her first book, THIS COULD BE YOU, received various awards including a starred review from Kirkus. Her upcoming picture book entitled HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART is due out later this year. Cindy is also the host of Author Pep Talk on YouTube where she encourages other authors to realize their publishing dreams.


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Reminders about Upcoming SCBWI-MI Events



  • Fall webinar with Sheela ChariOct. 22nd at 7:00 pm Registration period: Oct 1-22
  • Fall webinar with Cate Berry- Nov. 12th at 7:00 pm Registration period: Oct 22-Nov 12

Friday, October 3, 2025

Featured Illustrator: Ryan Hipp

 Kammeraad, puppy dog eyes, Little Steps, Our Show, Defauw and rooster: author/illustrator Ryan Hipp

Charlie Barshaw coordinates our regular Writer Spotlight feature and interviews writers of SCBWI. In this piece, meet  author  and featured illustrator Ryan Hipp.



Ryan's inspiration for this banner: "My daughter and I play called ‘Alligator Walk’ where she pretends to be a little bird sitting on my back."



What was life like for young Ryan? Where did the urge to draw and create come from?


That’s really where it all started, right? I think probably for a lot of us. I have like 4 or 5 vivid milestone moments that always come to my mind, and I don’t really remember which one came first. 

One very early one was realizing that before I could write letters and words, I had a better ability to draw what I meant to say - and people understood what I was drawing. So this exploded because I knew I could communicate visually. 

early art

Another moment that really aided my passion was my love of books with pictures. I was obsessed with the structure of Richard Scarry books, and how everything was meticulously labeled - which is why I am probably the way I am now. 


I do very much remember the moment that I discovered that Roger Hargreaves, the author and illustrator of the Mr. Men and Little Miss books was not in fact a kid. That tipped my apple cart. Those books reinforced that I could write and illustrate books.

more early art
They were simple in structure, and the illustrations were not too complicated and very accessible for a young audience to aspire to. So that initial spark got me thinking, “If a kid could make these books, I should make my own books." When I found out the truth, I doubled-down harder - okay, if a GROWN UP is writing and drawing like this, then I totally should be able to”



Early on you paired with Kevin Kammeraad to create The Tomato Collection. Tell us about this collaboration. How did you meet Kevin?

I met Kevin right at the start. We were both in college - he was finishing up at GVSU and I was at GRCC. I had just made the decision to follow my dream of becoming an author and switched to the Graphic Design major. Kevin was in film school and I met him at a party - I worked at a Grand Rapids comic book store called Tardy’s with Kevin’s roommate. 


At the party, my buddy said, “You’re still trying to make kids’ books right? You should talk to my roommate - he’s making one too” Although Kevin has no memory of this - haha - the day I met him at this party - this is my memory and I’m sticking to it. 

He was sitting on the floor on a shaggy rug, long flowing hair, wearing a white linen shirt, and there were like 4 or 5 really pretty girls sitting with him with puppy dog eyes as he was showing them his manuscript and dummy book for the Tomato Collection


He was reading them his poems and they were just enamored.  So I turned to my buddy and said, “This was not what I was expecting”, to which he responded, “Yeah, this is what it's like every time we have a party”.


I was at Kevin’s grand release party for the book, and it was really a proud moment - At the time, we were like, I don’t know 22 or 23? So this was a big deal for me to know that kids our age could really do this. It was an infectious motivation and I knew I more than ever I wanted to focus on this.


Shortly after his book was released, he had already started project #2 which was to turn the entire book into a music album, and he openly invited me to help him and that is really where I first established myself in the kid-lit world - I wrote and performed about 8 or 9 tracks on his album and did filler instrumentation on other people’s tracks - and that helped solidify my credibility in this path to kids books as a kids musician.

You’re a musician? What instruments do you play? How does your musical ability come into play with your art and writing?

Yeah - 8 years of band in school paid off - once you learn how to read music and if you have a good ear for music, anything is possible. Although playing live gives me anxiety, I am a wizard in the studio, I can usually get a song right in several takes with the power of editing. I play trombone, drums, ukulele and organ.

You also collaborated with Kevin Kammeraad to produce A Curious Glimpse of Michigan. What was your goal for this book?


Before I talk about Curious Glimpse, here's a good segue - Kev and I often would daydream of being one of those famous duos like Lane Smith & Jon Szieska. I joke about being paired with Kevin, but its really a point of pride to me. I really love Kevin - he is my family.

So Kevin and I were at Book Expo Chicago several years ago, and in an elevator on our way to an exclusive event we got a secret invite to from Harper Collins - it was a charity auction of original picture book art - and it was a literal who’s who of the industry - and who were we on the elevator with? Lane Smith and Jon Scieska! I think I made a joke about pressing the emergency stop button. Kevin said “we only have 40 seconds to tell these two guys how important they are to both of us”. They signed my autograph book. They even saw us after the gala and said, “Hey, Michigans!” We did give them a copy of Curious Glimpse.

So back to that - I had just started doing school visits with Kevin and also my first ones solo, and Kevin had met our publisher EDCO at a a teacher’s conference - and they really wanted to do something that was “like The Tomato Collection, but supporting the Michigan 4th grade curriculum”. 


I think what happened was Kevin wasn't really sure what that would even be, so he asked me for help. The plan was he and his wife Stephanie would write it, and he and I would co-illustrate it - and it really worked - we ended up all blurring the lines to make it what it was.

This was a huge door-opener for me because we had to re-pitch the idea to EDCO, and they trusted us. The book sold 20,000 copies regionally, and we did our signature treatment and turned the entire book into a music album - 49 tracks! 


We spent about 6 months making the book, and about a year making the music album. This is also where I met another collaborator Jim “ScribbleMonster” Dague, who wrote some of the songs on our album for us.

You went solo, wrote and illustrated a children’s book Little Steps. This book arose from a difficult period in your life. Care to elaborate?

Yes, thanks for asking this question - I always talk about this openly because I want kids to know authors are humans too, and talking about our feelings is healthy and we heal when we address our issues head-first.

It was October 2010 when the first block toppled - about a week before an SCBWI-MI Fall Retreat - my then-wife-now-ex-wife dropped a bomb on me out of the blue that she wanted to get divorced. No discussion. It was decided. 


I felt powerless to fix things. I wasn’t sleeping. I wasn’t eating, but I kept trying to hold everything together. When I showed up to Writing Camp, I just couldn’t fake it any more and I told Ruth and Charlie who really went above and beyond for me at that event and for months and months after. In time,  things got easier in some ways, and other blocks would fall in other ways. 




One really great thing that happened is I was able to put all my focus on my kid-lit career - I joined SCBWI-MI’s AdCom (Advisory Committe), became the Regional Illustrator Coordinator for my term, helped plan big events, made great connections, doubled (maybe even tripled) my school visits, and in 2012 received the Gwen Frostic Award for fostering literacy, (and I am so proud of the legacy of heroes and friends I am on that wall with). 


But despite all of the good, I still felt like a hole was still there inside me - that I still felt broken, anxious, uncertain, lost. The irony is even at the time I was doing my best work for kids, I was a mess. 


Even the letter I received informing me I was to receive the Gwen Frostic award sat unopened for a few weeks. I was just not really experiencing a lot of joy, and I knew I needed help - so I started seeing a counselor to help me process everything .


At this point what I was dealing with was much less about the lost relationship, and more about the fear of my future path being no longer clear... and I said, “why isn’t there a book about all of this?” 



(Side Note - haha I KNOW there are MANY books that help with these topics - but for dramatic effect and for the dramatization version of this autobiography, there were no books on the planet that could help with this - so I decided to write one). Little Steps really is about recognizing that life is going to be really hard, but we really do grow and learn to handle what comes our way.

You may have left Kevin Kammeraad behind, but you embraced his puppetry. You produced a number of short YouTube videos with Finley and Max. What did filming puppets teach you about storytelling?


Although I have made a concerted career effort to come into my own and not be so tied to Kevin in people’s minds, I will never have left Kevin behind. 


Sure, is it kind of annoying sometimes to be at an author event, and see a peer, and the first thing they ask is “Where’s Kevin?” I usually remind people we are not Bert & Ernie. But also we definitely never had a Hall & Oates falling-out either. Or for my fellow elder Millennials, we never had a Drake & Josh beef.

The story of Finley & Max is an incredible full circle. Finley & Max came about from an opportunity that I had to pitch a show idea to our local PBS Public Media station, and just as Kevin had given me so many opportunities, I knew I wanted to throw Kevin a bone and wanted to do this with him as well. 


We produced 2 pilot episodes and 9 mini episodes and due to contractual conflicts at the time, our PBS affiliate maybe got a little spooked about the commitment, and they never  aired on TV.

I was still incredibly proud of the accomplishment, I created a cinematic universe and a series bible for not only these two characters, but all the characters they would reference, I designed the puppets based on my drawings and hired Avenue Q puppet-maker Jarrod Boutcher to fabricate the puppets. A fun-fact about Jarrod, is he has created perfect muppet replicas for many notable puppeteers of the Sesame Street cast.


So fast forward to now! The fire has been re-sparked. My Curious Glimpse of MI colleague Jim Dague had been connected to my Finley & Max director at WGVU Phil Lane -  and now Jim, Phil, Kevin, myself and a host of others have begun our new children’s television adventure Our Show Today! Which airs on Saturday mornings on WGVU PBS Kids

All of our old Finley & Max segments are finally airing in a sub-segment called “Our Show Yesterday!” haha

Its really been so fulfilling to see decades of work and passion and collaboration finally find its way into the sun.


Ryan cares about animals, loves cartoons & comic books, science fiction & fantasy, collecting toys, playing classic video games, and skateboarding. 


That list of likes was from a while ago. I imagine you don’t skateboard as much as you used to. What do you care about now?

Haha. I feel attacked! In fairness, you are not wrong! I gave my adult nephew all four of my skateboards about 8 years ago. I think Tony Hawk is still skating in his late 50s, but I need to insure this body with better coverage if I am going to risk all. If I break my drawing hand, I’m in trouble.

So many of my other same interests are still happening! I still collect pop culture toys and statues, but I now have limited to a very specific curation of higher-end collectables. I have to collect with intentionality now otherwise I go too far. Something fun I do now is unboxing videos with my daughter (who is 4 at the time of this article).

Author and fellow-SCBWI member Danielle DeFauw wrote about the year you worked with K-4 students. What was the stated goal of your job? 


I am glad you asked about Danielle - I hope she sees this - Hi Danielle! - Here’s another person that I owe so much to. Danielle reached out to me a few years ago with really an incredible request around the time she was planning her Master’s thesis - to follow me in my author visit touring season journey and observe my approach to working with students over the course of my sessions. 

The outcome was more than I could have hoped for, and was incredibly validating to see a scholar’s point-of-view of my work, my impact and my mission to help kids. Really a huge honor!


You’re a Master Certified Coach?  What is Hipp-Hop Academy?

So for the last 10 years or so, I have been taking on adult mentorship clients, kind of ad hoc - helping folks that were aspiring authors who had great ideas but really no idea how the publishing industry works learn what they need to do to take the right steps. 


My first advice is always the same - join SCBWI first, and then I can help guide you further. I have always loved helping others make their publishing dreams come true, which was what I loved so much about my time on AdCom.


That’s why I have expanded my mentorship in a more official capacity by offering Hipp-Hop Academy.

In 2021, to improve my mentoring acumen, and to take on clients in a more official, certified capacity, I got my Master Certification in Professional Coaching. 


From there, I decided to develop a full program based on my entire career - packing all my successes and mistakes in a bottle and then scaling my 1:1 mentor offering into an expanded  full curriculum. Sometimes we need someone to take those little steps together.

You met a wonderful woman, and together you save animals. 

Tell us about some of your rescue successes. What rescues are currently under your care?


Yes, my wife Rachel is really my soul mate! She and I have been rescuing farmed animals since 2014! At our peak we had over 40 animals - each one getting full veterinary care. Father Time has asked us to say goodbye to so many of these friends, but we were able to give them a safe, harm-free life. 

Ryan and Luke Cage

One rescue that is very near and dear to us is our Rooster Luke Cage - a personal rescue we witnessed getting hit by a semi truck, and after taking him to the emergency hospital, he survived unscathed. He is still with us today, the indestructible Luke Cage.


You also have a beautiful daughter. What is this contest you’ve involved her in?

My daughter Lilith is a bit of a celebrity. Her toy unboxing videos are quite popular with a lot of the collectible companies, and Liith took 10th place in Hasbro’s Toddler of the Year contest. 

Rachel and Lilith

You joined two powerhouse reading organizations. What did you bring to their tables? What did SCBWI and the Michigan Reading Association do for you?


Where would I be without SCBWI and MRA? Both have given me a wealth of knowledge, experience, credibility, support, friendships, and a 20+ year career. Everything I have accomplished has been a ripple-effect from every opportunity that has come my way and each ripple originates from these two organizations. 


MRA gave me a platform, an audience, and a purpose to help kids in Michigan. And SCBWI-MI gave me the tools, the knowledge, the experience, and the credibility to be viewed as a thought-leader in the publishing world.

I would like to think what I brought to both of these organizations was service to young ones and service to those that want to do work for young ones.


Young and untamed Ryan Hipp changed the menu at an SCBWI event he was chairing. He was friendly with conference faculty. He had an uncommon amount of confidence for a big, bald guy with an unusual last name. Is there a quieter, dad Ryan today?

Haha. I will explain myself to anyone that wants to know this whole story! I think I have always had convictions and I think my confidence comes from a place of manifesting the person I want to be. 


To this day I think my time on AdCom was some of the proudest moments of my kid-lit career because It felt so good to be of service to so many writers and artists and being someone they looked to for guidance. 


I think we owe that confidence as responsibility to our members. And maybe this is the one thing in life that I am certain in my expertise of? Sorry Not Sorry for all my younger shenanigans.

Dad Ryan is maybe even more bold and un-quiet because I am keeping up with my little challenger for the title of Trouble-Maker-Maximus.


So, what’s your plan? Any new books on the horizon?

1. Coaching and Mentoring Aspiring Writers at Hipp-Hop Academy!


2. Traveling the world: Italy! Malaysia! Thailand! Japan! in 2024! Scotland! in 2025!

3. School Visits for the 2025-2026 School Year!

4. OUR SHOW TODAY! Saturdays on WGVU Public Broadcasting PBS!

5. I am writing a Middle Grade Horror Series!!!!

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Reminders about Upcoming SCBWI-MI Events



  • Fall webinar with Sheela ChariOct. 22nd at 7:00 pm Registration period: Oct 1-22
  • Fall webinar with Cate Berry- Nov. 12th at 7:00 pm Registration period: Oct 22-Nov 12

Friday, September 26, 2025

Writer Spotlight: Kristin Bartley Lenz

 If I Could Fly, cover reveal, pantsing, 15 words, Social Work, and wayward titles: Author Kristin Bartley Lenz

Charlie Barshaw coordinates our regular Writer Spotlight feature and interviews writers of SCBWI-MI. In this piece, meet author and former editor of The Mitten, Kristin Bartley Lenz.

When did young Kristin know she wanted to write? When did she find that helping others was something she needed to do?


My second-grade teacher made us write a poem for a Young Author’s Contest. Even though I loved to read, writing a poem seemed impossible. I complained and procrastinated. 

Finally, I stood at the back window of my house looking out at the woods, and inspiration struck. My poem, If I Could Fly, won the contest. I was asked to read my poem in front of the whole school (somehow I didn’t have stage-fright then!), and I attended a young author’s conference where I met real life authors. 

From that point on, I wanted to write. But it took more than 30 years for me to win another writing contest!

Even though I wrote throughout my childhood, I lost confidence in my writing during my teen and college years, and explored other areas of interest, earning a BA in psychology and then an MSW

Social work was a detour on my writing path, but it greatly expanded my worldview and ultimately prepared me to return to writing years later with more confidence and a stronger voice. 

Both writing and social work have given me a way to contribute to making our world a better place. I worked at a runaway shelter and counseling center in Michigan, a community mental health clinic and schools in Georgia, a program for children with developmental disabilities in California, and a children's hospital/home-visiting program back in Detroit.

(From your website) My novel is currently out of stock, but we're working on a reprint/updated version, hopefully to be released in 2026!

Wow! Good news and bad news? The good news being that you sold through the first press run. The bad news being that the second print won’t be available for a year. What’s your attitude?

My first YA novel, The Art of Holding On and Letting Go, is not just out of stock, but out of print because the publisher closed just before we could do a third print run. My attitude was bummed because Elephant Rock Books was such a great, award-winning small press. Rights reverted to me, and now Wild Ink Publishing will be re-releasing the novel, along with my new novel, The Door Swings Open, in spring 2026.

You hustle to get your work published, entering contests, writing poetry and flash fiction and prose poems and short stories and YA novels. And you’ve succeeded in building and diversifying your body of work. Is it another full-time job to query and submit your work? How many rejections?

Ha, yes, querying takes a lot of time and it’s a very effective way to procrastinate during the long slog of a novel draft! I haven’t kept track of the number of rejections, but it’s painful to look at the sea of red on my Submittable account which goes back to 2011. 

I like entering contests because they give me a deadline and challenge me to try a prompt/theme or meet specific word counts. My writing has evolved into new directions over the years, and I’ve been fortunate to learn from many wonderful teachers who encouraged experimenting with new forms. 

I write poetry and short fiction when I’m in between novel drafts or stuck. It’s fun to play with them over time. Most aren’t publishable, but every now and then I’m happy with the result, and I’ll research publishers who might be a good fit.

You write freelance for Detroit-area non-profits. Who do you write for, and why?

Over ten years ago, I was looking for ways to blend writing into my social work career, and Gleaners Community Food Bank of Southeastern Michigan gave me my first freelance job. 

They have a strong marketing and communications department, but they hire freelance writers when they’re short-staffed or have a big project with tight deadlines. This is collaborative writing which is different from my own individual work. 

The initial idea/direction comes from the Gleaners team, and then my words get blended with their words/formatting, and I enjoy seeing how it ultimately turns out in print.

Rock-climbing Kristin

My favorite assignments are for their Harvest Magazine. One time, they sent me to a senior apartment complex in Detroit that hosted a monthly fresh food distribution. I interviewed and photographed residents and volunteers to share their stories and Gleaner’s impact. 

I will always remember the elderly grandmother who cherished a fresh grapefruit, cutting it in quarters to make it stretch for days. She sat with me and detailed her monthly budget, including rent, utilities, medicines, and the paltry $16 of monthly government food assistance. It was impossible for her to make ends meet and why programs like Gleaners are crucial.

Most recently I’ve volunteered to do grant writing for Making Spirits Bright, a Detroit area literacy nonprofit that provides free school book fairs and more. They always need donations of gently used books, and they have a variety of volunteer needs! Check it out: https://makingspiritsbright.org/volunteer/

You co-founded The Mitten Blog, and worked as editor-in-chief for seven years, which is where I had the pleasure to work with you. Who else founded the blog? What was the original vision? How was The Mitten different when you started it versus when you left?

Jodie Fletcher and I were co-editors way back when The Mitten was a quarterly newsletter, first in print and then digital. Blogs were becoming popular and a way that we could share content more frequently, while giving our members more opportunities to contribute and promote their online visibility. Jodie set up our initial blog format, but then she was ready to explore other projects beyond children’s writing.

Patti Richards and Nina Goebel joined me on the original blog team, and it seems like only a few years ago that we gathered at a coffee shop to brainstorm. Patti has since published numerous picture books, and Nina is working as a licensed counselor/art therapist. 

Henry wants Kristin to take a break

I enjoyed the weekly rhythm of the blog posts/planning and how it kept me connected to our chapter’s leadership and members. Volunteering is a great way to meet people in a large organization, and I loved that my job gave me a way to champion our members’ work and success stories. 

It was hard to let go of my role, but it was time to shift my energy in other directions and I knew the blog would benefit from fresh eyes. It’s been fun to see the new team grow into their roles and make it their own, keeping some of our traditions and starting new ones. 

Thank you for your long run, Charlie! Your in-depth interviews foster connections and build community throughout our chapter. 

Congratulations on your second novel, The Door Swings Open, forthcoming in March 2026 from Wild Ink Publishing. You describe it as a genre-bender with mystery, suspense, and magical realism. Was there a bit of the “Sophomore Jinx” playing through your head at times? Like, maybe one novel is all I get?

Oh my goodness, yes. It took ten years to get my debut novel published, and I never thought it’d be another ten years before the next one came out! 

Three different agents believed in this novel and took it on at various stages of revision. We had some close calls and some bad luck (like going out on submission just as Covid hit New York), but we finally found the right fit with a small press.

Here's the teaser for your new novel:

THE DOOR SWINGS OPEN

Ella’s missing. Without a trace. A runaway.
Charlotte’s searching. For her missing friend. For help for her veteran father.
Aiden’s running. From his brother. From his past.

Tarot cards, urban art, lunar energy, fireflies, thin places.

A girl trying to reinvent herself.
A girl trying to find herself.
A boy trying to right his wrongs.

One will escape.
One will get caught.
One will die.

Did you slowly “pants” this one? How did your writing process evolve from your first novel to the second?

I’m definitely a pantser, but it was the many revisions that took so long. The story grew from a straight-forward first-person narration/simplistic plot to its current genre-bending form with multiple perspectives, a non-linear timeline, and elements of magical realism. 

Along the way, I was fortunate to win the SCBWI-MI novel mentorship competition with Leslie Connor. I’m so appreciative of her support and encouragement (and SCBWI-MI for providing these opportunities!)

Florida Writers blog shows your short poem “Flying,” about a young girl learning to ride a bike. You were able to take the heart of that poem and submit it to the NY Times, where it was published and honored.

How conscientious are you in recycling and repurposing your words?

Thanks to SCBWI-MI member Shutta Crum for recognizing the lesson in my poem and writing about it for the Florida Writer’s Association (where she spends the winters). 


I tinker with my words endlessly, and the work often evolves in unexpected ways over time. I can only think of one other instance where I deliberately recycled/repurposed my words for publication – a poem turned into a short story and both were published in different anthologies. 

I never intended to publish the first version of Flying. I wrote it as my own personal reflection on my daughter’s upcoming high school graduation. 

Years later, when I saw the call for submissions from The New York Times, I misread the instructions. I thought they asked for short poems on the theme of renewal with a maximum of 15 lines. I thought I could cut a few sentences from Flying

Then I realized the directions said it could only be 15 words! I cut the poem to the bone, and it worked! You can read more about the process, and how Shutta turned this into a writing exercise with other examples here: https://floridawriters.blog/hidden-treasures-finding-poems-within-your-poems/

You’ve been an active SCBWI member for at least fifteen years. Many friends and colleagues have helped you in your career: Heather Meloche, Natalie Aguirre and Deb Gonzales, to name a few. Want to name a few more?

I couldn’t have kept going without the support and camaraderie of so many writer friends from SCBWI and beyond. Critique partners, accountability partners, nature trail walking partners… There are too many to name, some have moved on to other states and career paths, and I will surely forget someone if I try to name them all! 

But I’ll give a special shout out to Tracy Bilen because she approached me at a conference over ten years ago, we became critique partners, and we’ve been cheering each other on ever since.

You’ve done tons of workshops and presentations, but the ones that surprised me were creative writing sessions aimed at social workers. That’s your personal Venn diagram, but it must be for others, too? What kind of audience do you get when you ask social workers to write?

I even have an SCBWI-MI member to thank for pointing me in this direction! Years ago, Betsy McKee told me about the University of Iowa National Poetry Contest for Social Workers. I entered, placed 2nd, and was given a scholarship to attend their annual Writing Workshop for Social Workers. 

So many people have personal stories they want to write – often for their own healing and/or to help others. My workshops introduce social workers/counselors to therapeutic writing for their own self-care and to benefit their clients. We delve into journaling, poetry, short stories, and memoir, depending on the group’s interest. 

Many people write in secret, and my goal is to provide a safe, supportive place to be vulnerable and receive encouragement and validation. I wish I knew years ago that poetry therapy even existed! I’m not planning to return to school to become a certified poetry therapist, but I’ve taken workshops to further my skills, and I benefit personally from the sessions too.

How do you, as a writer, take the experience you’ve gained over the years and various jobs as a social worker, while maintaining privacy for your clients?

The Just YA anthology included one of Kristin's short stories.
Free online access at 
https://open.library.okstate.edu/justya/

That’s a really good question that I’ve thought about a lot. Confidentiality is paramount. Their stories are important, but not mine to tell. 

I think it comes back to resilience. That’s what I’m tapping into when I write. Not the actual details of my clients’ circumstances, but the resilience that keeps them going, keeps them hopeful and seeking light and love. Individual resilience as well as resilience in families and communities. 

And then this all gets mixed up with my own values and personal experiences, so in the end it’s a new creation yet universal and relatable. The Art of Holding On and Letting Go grew out of my own rock-climbing experience, but readers have remarked that my social worker empathy is infused throughout the story.

You’ve praised editor Jotham Burrello for his help with The Art of Holding On and Letting Go. What did you learn working with him?

Jotham was the founder of Elephant Rock Books, but he’s also a college professor, the director of the Yale Summer Writing Program, and a published novelist. I had already revised The Art of the Holding On and Letting Go countless times on my own, with my first agent, and through the Highlights Foundation Whole Novel Workshop. 

But working with Jotham, the story grew deeper and richer. He asked me to step away from my computer and journal by hand, to write a scene of a seminal moment for each character. I was initially resistant – after all the revising I’d already done, now I wanted to be on my computer making final changes in the actual manuscript. 

I didn’t want to write scenes that wouldn’t be included in the final book. But I gave it a try, and it led to important discoveries about my characters. The scenes didn’t make it into the book, but many details did – so many layers.

And now I’m working with a new editor at Wild Ink on my next novel and just received a 12-page editorial letter with such thorough, thoughtful feedback. 

Small publishers can’t compete with the big NY publishers in many ways, but I’ve been fortunate to receive such personal attention and care from editors at small presses.

 

Thank you card from a high school student after Kristin's school visit

Titles, they’re a bugaboo of mine. What does it take to come up with your titles?

I never have a good title to start. The Art of Holding On and Letting Go was initially titled Climber Girl and then Carabiner, and my first agent said we needed something better before we went out on submission. 

We brainstormed and then scanned the entire manuscript looking for a word or phrase, and I found it on page 232! I love that the title describes the physical action of climbing and my character’s emotional journey.

The title evolved similarly for my forthcoming novel, The Door Swings Open. My drafts were titled Runaway. But in a revised scene, a door swung open, literally, and then that grew into a theme for each of the main characters.

What’s next for Kristin?

Wild Ink Publishing just did the cover reveal for my new novel, so it’s starting to feel real! Look for The Door Swings Open next spring, as well as the updated reprint of The Art of Holding On and Letting Go

I need to revamp my website and plan events. My current work-in-progress surprised me by turning from YA to adult, and I’ll be plugging away at my slow pace. 

It might take ten years to publish that one too (!), but in the meantime, I’ll keep writing poetry and short stories and teaching workshops and taking nature walks and cheering others on.

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I’ve stepped away from regular posting/sharing on social media, but I still pop in and out every week to keep in touch.

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Website: www.kristinbartleylenz.com

 

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