Nursery school paste, Ivy League schools, guinea pigs, and pie-eyed patrons: author/illustrator Amy Young
Amy's new Mitten masthead |
You said in
the bio on your website that you were an artist from the beginning. What were
your art tools of choice when you started? How did they change as you grew?
Amy as a young artist from her website |
I was three when I first knew I wanted to be an artist. At that time I was experimenting with cut and torn paper and nursery school paste. Good fun. Then, for years, it was graphite pencil, simply because that was what I had. I drew constantly—from life, from my head.
Eventually one of my art classes introduced watercolor, which I love to this day for its luminosity. In art school it was all about oil paint, for years. I eventually realized that the toxicity of oils and turpentine was a problem, and shifted to acrylics, which had improved immensely in quality by then. I discovered gouache all on my own, which I love for its versatility and bright colors. Pen and ink is a natural to pair with watercolor.
I have dabbled in printmaking and sculpture as well, which offer
their own delights. And I should mention photoshop, which I use not as a
primary medium, but as a comprehensive editing tool, to resize, shift elements,
touch up, tweak, etc.
Today,
I do not use any one medium, but move between them to find what works best for
a particular project. Sometimes I start in one medium, and then realize that is
not the look I want.
You’ve worked a lot with gouache. For non-painters, can you explain what gouache is, and what it does for your artwork?
Gouache is a water-based medium, but it has a higher pigment content that watercolor paints. That means you can layer it and use it thickly, and also rework it quite a bit. You can also use it thinly, more like watercolor. The color tends to be pure and brilliant. The finish is matte (non-reflective), which can be good or bad. Sometimes it can look a bit chalky compared to acrylics.
You suggested young artists copy the work of an artist they liked. Who were you copying early on? You also suggested, for the young writers, to do what amounts to fan-fiction and write a story about a character in a book that they read. Which character did you yearn to see more of?
I went through a long period in my tweens and early teens of loving anything Renaissance. I copied Leonardo anatomy and nature studies. I also adored the way Holbein and Ingres, for two, could turn a form by the weight of line.
That
grew into a fascination with gesture drawings, and how line weight could show
movement and actual weight. Years of life drawing classes helped! I remember my
favorite life drawing teacher, José Cintron, saying, “Everything has a gesture.
Even a pancake has a gesture!”
I
don’t remember feeling I wanted to see more of a particular character, but I do
remember loving an exercise in English class, where we had to write in the
style of various authors. It was easy and fun for me to put on that persona,
and I think it was important in my development as a writer.
You studied art at Yale and painting at Indiana U. Then you decided to hedge your bets and got a law degree from Harvard. You practiced law in Grand Rapids for seven years before you chucked it all and went back to art. Was there a specific incident that drew you away from your day job?
No.
It was a growing, suffocating feeling that I was in the wrong place, doing the
wrong thing. I kept thinking, “This is a great life, but it is not mine.” I
finally acted on it, after saving every single penny for a long time, so
I had a big safety cushion.
In an interview you described “ten years of trying” to publish a children’s book. “Then I got offers on two different books from two different publishers the same week.” Can you take us back to that week?
That
was a good week! To tell you about it, I have to start with all the years I
went to New York with my portfolio, getting five or ten-minute appointments
with art directors. From them I learned which illustrations they did and didn’t
like (newsflash: they have different opinions! I hadn’t expected that.),
and I learned that as an illustrator, I would get published faster if I also
wrote, and that my portfolio needed several illustrations of the same
characters in different settings.
So I arrived with four pages from what would become SPIKE AND CUBBIY’S ICE CREAM ISLAND ADVENTURE, along with the manuscript written by my very talented friend Heather Sellers http://www.heathersellers.com. That sold to Henry Holt.
Belinda |
Early in your career you illustrated books for Heather Sellers, Cori Meister and Lynn Cullen. Your most recent illustrator job was The Three Little Guinea Pigs by Erica S. Perl. You’ve gone against accepted publishing tradition and strove to share your art with the author. Why?
It
has been different in each case. Heather Sellers and I worked very
closely together, meeting once a week for most of a summer. We went into it
with a spirit of fun, and while we were hoping a book would come out of it, we
weren’t bothered either way. I knew I would get some good portfolio samples,
and she, a successful and accomplished poet, wanted to try her hand at a
children’s book. We laughed so much that summer, and we each learned a lot too.
Even the dogs had fun.
Cori Meister and I didn’t communicate much at all, but her three books
were about ponies. I researched A TON, but not being a pony person, I was
terrified of getting something wrong. I asked that she be shown the artwork to
vet it for anything that was off or misplaced.
Lynn Cullen’s book on Marie Antoinette was another very deep
dive into research. I lost myself in books about the politics, art, fashion,
and even took a trip to Versailles when I felt the reference books weren’t
enough. Again, I knew I had done my research, but I wanted another expert eye
to double-check everything.
Amy's latest: The Three Little Guinea Pigs |
Erica Perl and my editor Joy Peskin are both big guinea pig fans, so even though I haven’t met Erica, it sort of felt like a three-way friendship. It is very important not to step on each other’s toes, however. There were some things I might have written differently, thinking as an illustrator, but it was not my place to say so.
But it was reasonable to ask Erica to change
“suitcases” to “backpacks” as the piggies leave home, because—hello—how
is the guinea pig going to carry a suitcase? Likewise, it was entirely
reasonable for her to say Pumpkin should not be carried upside down by her
sisters, as that can hurt a guinea pig’s spine.
In
general, the separation between author and illustrator is a very good thing. I
could tell you horror stories from early in my career where aspiring writers tried
to stage direct me, an aspiring illustrator. The writer must give the
illustrator room to make the story their own.
You were commissioned by the Helen Devos Children’s Hospital to write and illustrate the book, “What Makes You Happy?” How hard was it to come up with a storyline with someone else’s idea? Grand Haven author Margaret Willey edited your work for this project. How did that collaboration work?
I used to do a fair amount of educational work, and that was not terribly pleasant; I felt undervalued, underpaid, micromanaged, and I didn’t like the kind of work I produced.
This was the exact opposite. I worked with the then president of Helen Devos Children’s Hospital, his executive assistant, and the president’s wife. They were AMAZING. They readily admitted that they did not know anything about children’s books, and let me write the story and handle most of the details. They were kind and respectful.
They made only one or two minor
adjustments, which made the book better. (The biggest being: no trampoline in
there, even though the kids I polled loved them. It turns out the hospitals see
way too many trampoline-related injuries.)
I
hired and paid for Margaret Willey’s services on my own, because I wanted a
good editor. Margaret has won many awards and accolades for her writing, and
she is also a trusted friend. She used to take on editing jobs as her schedule
allowed, but now focuses on her own writing.
Sparkle covers |
You mention the misleading sea monkey ads in the back of comic books as being an inspiration for your Unicorn Named Sparkle series. Which comic books were your favorites?
Archie
and his friends! I cannot tell you why, for the life of me. Maybe because their
lives seemed so normal, and mine was anything but.
Interior pages of A Unicorn Named Sparkle |
Sparkle the Unicorn is a goat-like creature who is odiferous, has big ears and a short blue horn. And he has fleas. Not at all the unicorn Lucy planned for. There is fertile ground in addressing what a person thinks they want versus what they need. Did this lesson apply to your own life?
In the Belinda the Ballerina series, the large-footed ballerina’s origin story (Belinda Begins Ballet, 2008) is actually the last story you wrote. Was that the plan from the start?
It wasn’t the plan at all. BELINDA was the first picture book I ever wrote, and it popped into my head fully-formed. To me, the idea of a ballerina with big feet was a metaphor.
Turns out, big feet are a THING out there. I had so many
mothers tell me their daughters loved this story because they felt bad about
having big feet, and had to shop in the adult section of the store, and on and
on. So it was natural for me to start mulling that over. The story sort of
wrote itself, based on what I learned from my readers.
Belinda the Ballerina |
In Belinda the Ballerina (2002) you relegate your heroine to becoming a waitress, a job you admitted to being your least favorite. Was that in order to make the protagonist’s situation as painful as possible? What do you remember most about your days serving tables?
I
picked waitressing because it is generally an easy job to get. Also, it gave
Belinda a built-in audience for her return to dance. As waitressing jobs go,
Belinda had it pretty good.
In
my early 20s I worked in a London-based Pizza Hut. We stayed open after the
pubs closed, so all the drunks would pile in to order pizza. I was required to
ask the (bollocksed, bog-faced, clobbered, fermented, hammered, legless,
lubricated, marinated, mashed, pie-eyed, pickled, pissed, plastered, potted, slaughtered,
sloshed, smashed, soused, stewed, tight, wasted, zombied—you get the idea?) patrons
whether they wanted the crust “Thin and Crispy or Thick and Chewy?” Always a
big laff, that. The fellows were harmless enough, I suppose, but you would be
surprised how often I forgot to ask the question.
I
also worked at a more genteel place in the Lake District of England, where
elderly English people would instruct me dozens of times a day on how to make
“a proper pot of tea,” a lesson I internalized deeply. You must rinse the pot
with boiling water, people! Is that so hard??
In 2014 you were invited to spend two weeks in China because your Belinda the Ballerina series was so popular there. The trip must have been equal parts exhilarating and exhausting. What are your favorite memories of China?
It
was an amazing trip in every single way. A few weeks before I left, I realized
that was being billed not only as an author/illustrator, but as a “Literary
Expert,” which included me giving a keynote address at a big literary
conference in Beijing, alongside an actual literary expert. Eek! I absorbed all
the material I could. (Fascinating stuff! And thank you, law school study
habits.) I also learned that reading picture books was relatively new in China;
the cultural approach would be to start at the beginning, read through without
interruption, and then stop--not what the literary experts recommend for the
littles.
Favorite
memories:
* My translators from the Chinese publishing
house. It was an honor to meet and get to know them, and theirs was not an easy
job. All of the employees who assisted me and took me around and managed my
schedule were stellar.
*
At one event I read to a group of adorable toddlers, and then I was supposed to
tell the parents how to read with young children. As I switched to my
adult voice, the tots’ eyes glazed over. I told the parents that the idea was
to get children to engage with the book, not necessarily to read it straight
through. I held up Eric Hill’s WHERE’S SPOT? and started in with a smiling,
excited voice,
Not Spot from Moi and Marie Antionette |
A
hundred pairs of eyes riveted on me and that book.
“Is
he in the piano?”
As
one, they rose.
“Let’s look!”
And
then I was overrun with an adorable, tiny army of zombie children, tottering
towards me on little legs, surrounding me, reaching out to touch and see for
themselves.
I
said, “See, THIS is what you want!” Later I was told that many of these
children had never seen a Westerner, and the organizers had worried they’d be
afraid of me. Not a problem; that’s the power of art and goodwill.
*
A boy asked me a question, and everyone chuckled. My translator said, “He
called you Grandma.” I was so touched.
*
I never knew what each day would bring. One afternoon I was told I was going to
interviewed for a radio program, and they were going to ask me how books got
into the hands of young readers in America. It sounded like a quiet, thoughtful
event, which would be a pleasant change of pace. As we approached the interview
room, I heard a muffled roar of voices through the closed door. Inside were at
least a hundred children and parents, and a huge banner saying WELCOME AMY
YOUNG! Before I knew it, it was time for me to do a webcast presentation, on
camera. And just before we went live, the host said, “This is being watched by
100,100 people!”
*
The food was so amazingly delicious.
You say that you do most of your writing and early sketches at the kitchen table, the couch, or a local coffee shop. But when it comes to your final art, your well-lit basement studio is the place you retreat to. What does your studio look like when you are deep into the project?
This
is a trick question, isn’t it? I have a feeling that you already know it looks
like a tornado hit. I will say that at the beginning of each project, everything
is very clean, tidy, and organized.
What different art techniques and tools have you used over the years for various projects. Where are you at now?
I let the project decide the medium. For ten of my books, including the BELINDA series, I used straight gouache. For the SPARKLE series, I used pen and ink and watercolor, with a touch of gouache here and there, to give it a bit of a retro look.
Illustration from Don't Eat the Baby |
For the last book I illustrated, THE THREE LITTLE GUINEA
PIGS by Erica Perl, I used a mishmash of pen and ink, water-soluble markers and
pens, and watercolor; it gave a look that was bright and exuberant, which
suited to story.
Sometimes
I will start a book assuming I will use one medium, but quicky realize that is
not the feel I want. I enjoy finding what works best.
You play the Irish fiddle. What’s that all about?
Ha!
That is a rabbit hole I fell into 15 years ago, and I just keep falling deeper.
It is an art, a pleasure, and a pastime. My husband plays concertina, so it is
a shared passion. We just got back from a trip to Ireland, where we had a great
time seeing old friends, making new ones, and playing in sessions with other
musicians.
Learning
an instrument as an adult is no easy undertaking. I must be patient with
myself, but keep pushing if I hope to progress at all. When I do make
significant progress, it feels miraculous, like a baby learning to walk. I’m
sure all of that feeds into my book work, but I don’t want to explore the
connection too closely--I don’t want to piss off the sprites and fairies and wreck
the magic.
What’s next for Amy Young?
I
am working on several story ideas, hoping one will spark. Same as most (all?)
of our members!
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Amy, I love how you used the yarn from the mitten to write The Mitten! Thank you very much for this beautiful new banner!
ReplyDeleteThank you! I loved doing it.
DeleteI love the new banner! Great job!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jamie!
DeleteReally fun interview. Nice to get to know you a little better!
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DeleteAmy, thanks for the informative and interesting interview. I've wondered what gouache is for years. Thanks, Charlie for another great interview.
ReplyDeleteI forgot to say I love the banner.
DeleteLove the fox in the banner. And all your art! So glad you gave up law as a profession!
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ReplyDeleteAmy!!! So great to learn so much more good stuff about you! And I love the banner art. Terrific interview, Charlie. Amy -- I think of you every year when we put our Belinda the Ballerina toy on the Christmas tree as an ornament. Keep going. I love your work!
ReplyDeleteHi, Amy! So glad to 'see' you here. It's been too many years. Happy for your glorious career!
ReplyDeleteBeautiful and whimsical banner! I love your work, Amy! :-)
ReplyDeleteSuch an interesting and fun-filled interview. Thanks, Amy and Charlie!
ReplyDeleteWonderful interview and banner! So, so, talented and hardworking. I gifted my Belinda Ballerina bendable toy to our head librarian some years ago when he got a promotion and had..... big shoes to fill. She stood on top of the farewell cake :)
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